I went to Vegas for Memorial Day weekend with a buddy for a little hoorah before summer. I always have mixed feelings when I go to a party city like Vegas on a major holiday weekend. While I always have a blast, it seems like these weekends bring out every drunk and horny guy that has been repressed since the last holiday and I find that girls bring out their bitch shield much faster because they have been apporached by every guy with a little liquid courage in his system.
So with this in mind I always cover my bases to give me the greatest opportunity during the weekend. So I got on match.com and spent about 30 minutes sending out generic emails to women from the site. Something like this:
You seem fun! I dig the smile too...
I'm in Vegas for memorial day weekend if you're interested in getting together for a drink.
Do you speak "text message"? My number is 562-XXX-XXX.
-Cyrus the Virus
So I get a text message from one of the girls inviting me out to a pool party at her place. It's her and a girlfriend and their kids. My buddy and I head out there and meet them. The girl from match is about 5'11, big boobs and a big round curvy ass. Not my type for a LTR but I'm digging the big round ass. We head out to the pool and are drinking banana flavored malibu rum mixed with orange juice.
About 90 minutes in she says she has to walk back to her apartment to get some more CD's. I see my shot to get something going so I tell her I'll go with her. We get back there and I escalate immediately. We're kissing hard and rubbing each others bodies. I put her hand on my erection and I start finger banging her in the kitchen. I try to take it to the next level but she starts getting nervous about being gone too long so we stop and head back to the pool.
If you have read any of my other reports, I have been able to use text messaging as a discrete way to escalate when there is no opportunity to do it vocally or physically. We are back at the pool for another hour in our little group when I decide to go for broke:
CtV (8:51) - We're going to be leaving in a little while. Text me later if you want me to sneak over and do naughty things to you :)
HbTall (8:54) - Oh i do!! Big time! I think i will do really naughty things to you first!;)
Ctv (9:15) - Now I'm having dirty thoughts. :) How can we discreetly leave for a few minutes?...
HbTall (9:18) - Mmmmmm i am not sure that is a hard one! I am trying to be good til later if thats ok? It is hard for me to start then stop because I dont like to stop!
CtV (9:22) - Hmmmm...I could walk out to my car to make a phone call, and a few minutes later you could leave to go get something from your place.
HbTall (9:23) - Ok we can do that! That will work!
So we went back to her apartment again and it was on. No resistance and I sealed the deal.
In my short time doing this, I have really realized that being discrete can really increase your results. Women don't like to be viewed as sluts in front of their friends, but if you can figure out a way to alleviate that concern, you remove a major objection from getting the SNL.
Monday, May 31, 2010
Friday, May 28, 2010
Use meetup.com to practice your Social Skills, get SNL’s, and Day 2’s
In some of my previous lay reports, I have talked some of the hook-ups I’ve achieved through meetup.com social events. But I don’t write about ALL of my exploits, so let me officially relay the score. One SNL, one SNBJ (same night blow job), and a Day 2 BJ from these events.
But those are just the added benefits. The real reason I go to these events is to practice my approaches, work on my material stack, kino, and building social proof in a venue. Now granted it is much easier to go about this in this kind of setting versus a bar or club, but you have to learn to walk before you can run. There is an implied “social acceptance” when you attend these events and most people will automatically be nice to you.
So here are the types of groups I join – I do a search in my area (LA to OC) of the groups with the largest number of members, then I join the groups with the largest number of members, that focus on events such as happy hour, wine tasting, pub crawls, dancing, etc. Most of these groups have an official photographer that documents the activities, so often times you will find candid pics on the website after the event that you can look at to check out your body language, facial expressions, and how your fashion and style look.
I put together a few notes of openers I want to try, conversational threads I want to work on, kino, sexual frames, building social proof.
So here is how the evening goes:
• I dress a little bit better or slightly different then everyone else so I stand out.
• I arrive a little late, get situated, and pick out the girls I want to interact with.
• I start working the room, introducing myself, vibing and interacting with the targets, working on my material.
• I throw in a sexual frame into the conversation. Something like - “that’s a very mischevious grin. You have a sweet face but I detect a naughty side”.
• The ones that these frames go well with, I stay in there and continue the conversation, throw in more sexual frames (see my other posts for some of these routines) and see where it takes me. You’ll find that some will say they are married or have a BF to which I say “Ok, that means we need to be discrete” (note: say this in private, not if there are other people around listening). If the set is not hooking then I move onto to the next.
• After I have made some sort of connection, I always go for the phone number so that I have the opportunity to text them later. I’ll do this WAY before our conversation ends so that I have the # and still have the opportunity to build on that connection.
• I continue working the room and repeat. At the end of the night I’ll either try for the direct pull (which is a little tough because the girls don’t want to look like they are leaving with someone in front of the group) or text them or have them text me after the event ends. In SNL I got at one of these events a couple weeks ago in Newport Beach, I told the girl when she was leaving to “text me later if she wants me to stop by and tuck her in”. An hour later I get a text from her saying “I’m ready to be tucked in” and it was ON from that point.
*Disclaimer – I did have one girl complain to the event organizer at one of the events that I was hitting on every girl. So use a little discretion and don’t go too over the top with your interactions. They can kick you out of the group if people complain about you.
But those are just the added benefits. The real reason I go to these events is to practice my approaches, work on my material stack, kino, and building social proof in a venue. Now granted it is much easier to go about this in this kind of setting versus a bar or club, but you have to learn to walk before you can run. There is an implied “social acceptance” when you attend these events and most people will automatically be nice to you.
So here are the types of groups I join – I do a search in my area (LA to OC) of the groups with the largest number of members, then I join the groups with the largest number of members, that focus on events such as happy hour, wine tasting, pub crawls, dancing, etc. Most of these groups have an official photographer that documents the activities, so often times you will find candid pics on the website after the event that you can look at to check out your body language, facial expressions, and how your fashion and style look.
I put together a few notes of openers I want to try, conversational threads I want to work on, kino, sexual frames, building social proof.
So here is how the evening goes:
• I dress a little bit better or slightly different then everyone else so I stand out.
• I arrive a little late, get situated, and pick out the girls I want to interact with.
• I start working the room, introducing myself, vibing and interacting with the targets, working on my material.
• I throw in a sexual frame into the conversation. Something like - “that’s a very mischevious grin. You have a sweet face but I detect a naughty side”.
• The ones that these frames go well with, I stay in there and continue the conversation, throw in more sexual frames (see my other posts for some of these routines) and see where it takes me. You’ll find that some will say they are married or have a BF to which I say “Ok, that means we need to be discrete” (note: say this in private, not if there are other people around listening). If the set is not hooking then I move onto to the next.
• After I have made some sort of connection, I always go for the phone number so that I have the opportunity to text them later. I’ll do this WAY before our conversation ends so that I have the # and still have the opportunity to build on that connection.
• I continue working the room and repeat. At the end of the night I’ll either try for the direct pull (which is a little tough because the girls don’t want to look like they are leaving with someone in front of the group) or text them or have them text me after the event ends. In SNL I got at one of these events a couple weeks ago in Newport Beach, I told the girl when she was leaving to “text me later if she wants me to stop by and tuck her in”. An hour later I get a text from her saying “I’m ready to be tucked in” and it was ON from that point.
*Disclaimer – I did have one girl complain to the event organizer at one of the events that I was hitting on every girl. So use a little discretion and don’t go too over the top with your interactions. They can kick you out of the group if people complain about you.
Monday, May 17, 2010
Same Night Lays - Captain Jack's Insight
From Captain Jack...
The first major attitude shift is this: Women don't go to clubs/bars only to listen to music, drink or talk to friends. They can do all of those at home or at a friends house. They go because they want/need sex and they want to be picked up.
Debriefing shows they would have sex the same night more often were the feelings there. Your job, fellow pirate, is to create the feelings, create the opportunity and do so in a manner that seems so natural and easy that it seems like it all just fell into place.
Sinn referred to this when he said, "Captain Jack Method: Hang out till sex happens."
First I want to tell you that there IS a difference between Same-Night-Lays (SNL) and One Night Stands (ONS).
ONS skips comfort which usually results in buyer's remorse. For all the 4-5 hours of precious time you invested you get one lay. Even worse, if you mismanage the escalation and trigger asd/lmr that you can't get through, you'll get zero lays.
I've never had any problems seeing/dating a girl who I laid the same night because I qualify and build comfort.
I'll take this from the top...
You need to get there early (in Tejas, that means no later than 10:00) because some of your sets will fail the SNL screening statements (more on that later) and you'll need to close out with a TimeBridge, stay the obligatory 5-10 minutes to solidify and move on.
You should focus on mixed sets. This may seem counter-intuitive but experience has shown me this is true. Here's why: In all girl sets they often pile into one car. But, in mixed sets you have a greater chance of girls taking their own car and/or meeting the group later.
Do a little thought experiment: How many times have you witnessed a girl walking into the bar alone...she's looking for someone...she finds them and before you know it she is seated with a 4-5 mixed set.
You open the group in the standard way, do all the normal things you'd do until you hit the "How do you guys know each other?" waypoint. If she's not there with someone, then isolate (or atleast get mini-isolation.)
Now that you are in isolation it's time to start with the sexual framing. I use my version of Strawberry fields and "Rings on Fingers" to frame things sexually and I start seeding the TB.
It is supremely important that you don't convey any "judgmentalism" regarding sex, sexual preferences or lifestyles in any way, shape or form.
You also don't want to place too much importance on sex by talking about it or calling it a "special thing between two people" or any silly shit like that. The underlying attitude is sex is normal, healthy, fun and about to happen soon.
At the begining of C1 I start to screen for logistics issues...I listen for answers to these questions or ask them outright.
* Who did she ride with. (Best answer is, of course, alone in her car.)
* What time does she need to get up in the morning. (Best answer, later the better.)
(These things just make it easier. The better you get the more willing girls are to ignore things like riding home with guys she just met or getting up early. I know it's hard to believe but experience proves it true.)
If the vibe is sexual and I feel like there are no obvious excuses for her not to come home with me (have to work early is the main one) I'll stay around. If not, then I'm looking for a new set. This needs to be run super-tight. I'm talking 20 minutes in you're making this decision because you need to be solidly in comfort by 12:30 (for venues that close at 2:00). This 1.5 hours is the MAIN (but not only) factor which distinguishes this from ONS (the other being non-sexual qualification and peer befriending.) I call 12:30 to 2:00 "Putting my time in..."
Always TimeBridge, it makes the SNL easier because it lessens asd and lmr.
As it gets closer to closing time 1:20-1:30 I start saying things like, "I don't want the night to end, I'm really enjoying myself."
If she agrees or says nothing you can say, "Let's hang out at my place. I have xyz alcoholic drinks and we can watch that show I was telling you about."
Or, you can say, "I'm kinda hungry."
You're saying this to see what kind of reaction you get. She may go ahead and propose eating somewhere. (Though, I've stopped doing this almost a year ago because I lost a few "sure" lays as the sexual tension lessened, the tiredness set in and the alcohol (and fun mode) wore off.)
The after hours club is also a good proposal. I've used this one quite a few times. It's perfect because you have to swing past your place to get alcohol before heading out. And, oh by the way, the club doesn't even open til 3am so we got 45 minutes to burn. Let's see, how are we gonna kill 45 minutes? I know, we'll have sex! Ha ha.
But, one of my favorite tactics (if she drove) is to get her to give me a ride home. Then, while in the parking lot you can say "Come in for a bit. You can use the restroom and have some water before you head home." Then, grab her keys, turn off the car and get out.
(What's that? Do I hear you worrying about your car? Don't worry about it dude, you're going to get laid! Have a friend take you back to your car if need be. Or, better yet, have the girl do it that night.)
Logistics separate the men from the boys (or the mPUAs)
The best mental image I can give you here is "Baby Steps."
I rarely tell them where/how far away I live. Some of the places I go to are a good 35-40 minutes away. Sinn and I have pulled 2 or 3 times SNL's from those locations so he can attest to my skill in that area.
Fidelio, KinoMaster, and Tribulus have all witnessed with their own eyes me doing this, multiple times, as well.
The goal is to get her to the seduction location and make it look like it sorta just happened. This is why the "gimme a ride home" and the "after hours venue, oh wait, gotta go home and get alcohol" tactics work so well.
Hopefully, you started a good kino progression early in the sarge. Because once she's in your place it's time to amp it up a little bit.
Hot/cold is the order of the day. Make out, pull back, continue with your comfort material. Tease her mercilessly.
Have your LMR skills honed because you'll almost surely have to use them.
The good news is: If you don't get the lay, the day2 is almost assuredly going to be her coming straight over to have sex with you and that's my kinda date.
The first major attitude shift is this: Women don't go to clubs/bars only to listen to music, drink or talk to friends. They can do all of those at home or at a friends house. They go because they want/need sex and they want to be picked up.
Debriefing shows they would have sex the same night more often were the feelings there. Your job, fellow pirate, is to create the feelings, create the opportunity and do so in a manner that seems so natural and easy that it seems like it all just fell into place.
Sinn referred to this when he said, "Captain Jack Method: Hang out till sex happens."
First I want to tell you that there IS a difference between Same-Night-Lays (SNL) and One Night Stands (ONS).
ONS skips comfort which usually results in buyer's remorse. For all the 4-5 hours of precious time you invested you get one lay. Even worse, if you mismanage the escalation and trigger asd/lmr that you can't get through, you'll get zero lays.
I've never had any problems seeing/dating a girl who I laid the same night because I qualify and build comfort.
I'll take this from the top...
You need to get there early (in Tejas, that means no later than 10:00) because some of your sets will fail the SNL screening statements (more on that later) and you'll need to close out with a TimeBridge, stay the obligatory 5-10 minutes to solidify and move on.
You should focus on mixed sets. This may seem counter-intuitive but experience has shown me this is true. Here's why: In all girl sets they often pile into one car. But, in mixed sets you have a greater chance of girls taking their own car and/or meeting the group later.
Do a little thought experiment: How many times have you witnessed a girl walking into the bar alone...she's looking for someone...she finds them and before you know it she is seated with a 4-5 mixed set.
You open the group in the standard way, do all the normal things you'd do until you hit the "How do you guys know each other?" waypoint. If she's not there with someone, then isolate (or atleast get mini-isolation.)
Now that you are in isolation it's time to start with the sexual framing. I use my version of Strawberry fields and "Rings on Fingers" to frame things sexually and I start seeding the TB.
It is supremely important that you don't convey any "judgmentalism" regarding sex, sexual preferences or lifestyles in any way, shape or form.
You also don't want to place too much importance on sex by talking about it or calling it a "special thing between two people" or any silly shit like that. The underlying attitude is sex is normal, healthy, fun and about to happen soon.
At the begining of C1 I start to screen for logistics issues...I listen for answers to these questions or ask them outright.
* Who did she ride with. (Best answer is, of course, alone in her car.)
* What time does she need to get up in the morning. (Best answer, later the better.)
(These things just make it easier. The better you get the more willing girls are to ignore things like riding home with guys she just met or getting up early. I know it's hard to believe but experience proves it true.)
If the vibe is sexual and I feel like there are no obvious excuses for her not to come home with me (have to work early is the main one) I'll stay around. If not, then I'm looking for a new set. This needs to be run super-tight. I'm talking 20 minutes in you're making this decision because you need to be solidly in comfort by 12:30 (for venues that close at 2:00). This 1.5 hours is the MAIN (but not only) factor which distinguishes this from ONS (the other being non-sexual qualification and peer befriending.) I call 12:30 to 2:00 "Putting my time in..."
Always TimeBridge, it makes the SNL easier because it lessens asd and lmr.
As it gets closer to closing time 1:20-1:30 I start saying things like, "I don't want the night to end, I'm really enjoying myself."
If she agrees or says nothing you can say, "Let's hang out at my place. I have xyz alcoholic drinks and we can watch that show I was telling you about."
Or, you can say, "I'm kinda hungry."
You're saying this to see what kind of reaction you get. She may go ahead and propose eating somewhere. (Though, I've stopped doing this almost a year ago because I lost a few "sure" lays as the sexual tension lessened, the tiredness set in and the alcohol (and fun mode) wore off.)
The after hours club is also a good proposal. I've used this one quite a few times. It's perfect because you have to swing past your place to get alcohol before heading out. And, oh by the way, the club doesn't even open til 3am so we got 45 minutes to burn. Let's see, how are we gonna kill 45 minutes? I know, we'll have sex! Ha ha.
But, one of my favorite tactics (if she drove) is to get her to give me a ride home. Then, while in the parking lot you can say "Come in for a bit. You can use the restroom and have some water before you head home." Then, grab her keys, turn off the car and get out.
(What's that? Do I hear you worrying about your car? Don't worry about it dude, you're going to get laid! Have a friend take you back to your car if need be. Or, better yet, have the girl do it that night.)
Logistics separate the men from the boys (or the mPUAs)
The best mental image I can give you here is "Baby Steps."
I rarely tell them where/how far away I live. Some of the places I go to are a good 35-40 minutes away. Sinn and I have pulled 2 or 3 times SNL's from those locations so he can attest to my skill in that area.
Fidelio, KinoMaster, and Tribulus have all witnessed with their own eyes me doing this, multiple times, as well.
The goal is to get her to the seduction location and make it look like it sorta just happened. This is why the "gimme a ride home" and the "after hours venue, oh wait, gotta go home and get alcohol" tactics work so well.
Hopefully, you started a good kino progression early in the sarge. Because once she's in your place it's time to amp it up a little bit.
Hot/cold is the order of the day. Make out, pull back, continue with your comfort material. Tease her mercilessly.
Have your LMR skills honed because you'll almost surely have to use them.
The good news is: If you don't get the lay, the day2 is almost assuredly going to be her coming straight over to have sex with you and that's my kinda date.
Sunday, May 16, 2010
LR: 3 girls-1 nite. The good, the bad, and the ugly
So here are the highlights from my crazy weekend. Before you read this I have to admit that all 3 girls are in the 5 to 6 range as far as looks goes. So they won’t be competing in any beauty contests anytime soon!!
I went out Thursday and Friday night in O.C. Thursday night I went to Cabo Cantina in Newport Beach and then to the Quiet Woman in Corona del Mar. I got one solid number (texted that night), but couldn’t seal the SNL, but have a Day 2 planned for this week (she is really hot and not one of the three I refer to in this report).
Friday night I started at a sports bar in Costa Mesa with some buddies watching the Laker game. Then we moved on to a trendy spot up the street called Mesa Lounge. Walked in and stopped at the patio with my buddy to smoke. I noticed an older artsy hippie looking gal sitting out there by herself smoking. She turned out to be French so I’ll call her HbFrenchie. I can’t remember exactly what I said, but we chatted about my blue cigarettes, I touched her quite a bit, I made a few naughty innuendos, we exchanged numbers by me sending her a text message, and then I moved on to work the Mesa bar area. There were a lot of hot girls there, but I didn’t open too many sets. I guess it was because they were all mixed sets and I haven’t gotten comfortable with this part of the game yet. I still need some work on winning over the guys in the mixed set. We went to a bar next door and I layed the groundwork for a SNL with a hairstylist, but she got pulled out at closing time by her friend and she didn’t respond to me texts. I also tried to get HbFrenchie to come to my place. It was a no-go. Here are the texts between me and her on Friday night because they become relevant on Saturday. Here they are (she doesn’t have the best English):
HbFrenchie (April 30, 11:17pm): Hi nice to meet u. A### French girl
CtV (11:23): You too.
HbFrenchie (11:26): R u bored honey
CtV (11:29): Are you going to entertain me??
HbFrenchie (11:30): Yes or no
CtV (11:32): Yes
HbFrenchie (11:33): I was sure! I left from there
HbFrenchie (11:42): Did I bother u
CtV (11:46): Not at all. What are you doing?
HbFrenchie (11:50): Different place my friend like place at Newport more quiet
CtV (12:09): We were in Newport last night…the Quiet Woman.
HbFrenchie (12:20): Villa nova! Did I miss u
CtV (1:23): No. You didn’t miss me. You’ll be in Long Beach later right??
HbFrenchie (2:29): Honey am little bit drunk I cant drive
CtV (2:32): Hmm. Want me to come to your place??
HbFrenchie (2:33): Did u met a girl
CtV (2:36): I’m just dropping my friend off at his car in Costa Mesa.
HbFrenchie (2:43): Am sleeping I cant
So I just go home and go to bed.
Saturday turned out to be a crazy day and night. I ended up with 2 lays and 1 BJ by 3 different girls and no sleep. Saturday afternoon a girl from match.com came over under the premise of smoking some hookah and having a drink. She was visibly nervous when she arrived (she was wearing Gucci sunglasses - HbSunglasses), so I figured that since the underlying emails and texts were of a sexual nature, that I should just work on getting her comfortable. So I did lots of conversational material on my background, job, how ended up here in SoCal, favorite local places to hang, etc. I sprinkled in the Blowjob Line Palm read, my Genie bit, and palm massage (backrub). I stood up and had her show me the butt massage, turned around and put her hand on crotch, unzipped and it was “on”.
At 5:30 I head for a pub crawl that was organized my meetup.com If anyone hasn’t checked this out, I would highly recommend it for practicing social proof. Meetup.com consists of a bunch of groups in your particular area that get together based on mutual interests. I sign up for the social/drinking groups that have lots of members. I’ve been to a few of these events, there are always girls there – some hot, some not, but it’s a great venue for “working the room” going from set to set.
I decided since I just got laid that I was just going to go there to “practice” social proof. There is a decent mix of people there. The girls are mostly in their 30’s and 40’s. There are 4 bars on the crawl, so I get to work getting to know the girls and a couple of the dudes. I’m dressed totally different from everyone else with my black beanie and “rocker style” jacket with a t-shirt underneath. As I am meeting the girls, I start peppering in the sexual frames, being flirty, touching them, and getting to know several throughout the night. Fast forward to the last bar of the evening. We started the crawl about 6:00 and now its 11:30. My horniness has come back and I have a few targets in mind. My favorite of the bunch is pretty wasted at this point (she spilled her drink on me) and is being taken care of by her friends. Another target is married and has been flirting with me. I hint that we can discretely slip away to my place and I can tell she is intrigued by the notion, but don’t get the sense that it’s going to happen.
So this chubby chick with huge tits is standing by me and I haven’t spoken to her all night. I figure seeing those huge tits are better than going home alone so we exchange numbers. My default move when I get a number is to just send her a text message so she has my number as well. We’re standing with a group talking about these chocolate martinis they are drinking and we have the following secret text conversation:
CtV (11:26 pm): Hi
HbTitties (11:28): Hi r u ready 4 dessert?
CtV (11:30): Yes. Are you??
HbTitties (11:42): Always
CtV (11:45): Wait for me outside
HbTitties (11:48): Maybe if u’re lucky
So we meet outside and start walking toward my place. I am actually a little embarrassed walking into my building and I hope nobody sees me. We get to my pad, I get her top off and play with her titties and settle in for a BJ. She told me she was on her period which is fine by me because she is definitely not my type. We finish and she leaves around 12:30 am.
At around 3:00 am I get a call from HbFrenchie from Friday night. We had been texting throughout the evening and she says she is coming over. Here is the text conversation from Saturday:
HbFrenchie (May 1, 9:49pm): Hi baby
CtV (9:55): What’s up hot stuff??
HbFrenchie (9:56): What r u doing tonight?
CtV (10:04): I’m out in Long Beach right now. What are you doing??
HbFrenchie (10:06): Am having dinner
CtV (10:10) You’re welcome to come over later
HbFrenchie (10:12): Let me think!
HbFrenchie (10:30): Where do u live send me ur address
HbFrenchie (10:40): Do u change ur mind
CtV (10:44): No. When can you be here??
HbFrenchie (10:46): In two hour send me where u live
CtV (10:49): #### ##### ## Long Beach 90802
HbFrenchie (10:55): When I am there ill call u
CtV (10:59): Ok
HbFrenchie (11:15): Do u have something to drink
So HbFrenchie ended up being really fun. From the minute she walked in it was on and we got right to it. She kept saying “We” ‘We” (that means “Yes” in French) over and over while she was riding me. That was kinda cool. I’ve never heard that before!!
After sex debrief with the 3 girls from Saturday (I ask them what is was that compelled them to have sex with me):
HbSunglasses: She said it was on from my first email in which I told her I detected a hidden naughty side.
HbTitties: She said she had been watching me all night with the other girls and thought I was really cute.
HbFrenchie: She said she hadn’t had sex in 2 months and when I was touching her lower back on the smoking patio she couldn’t stop thinking about it.
I went out Thursday and Friday night in O.C. Thursday night I went to Cabo Cantina in Newport Beach and then to the Quiet Woman in Corona del Mar. I got one solid number (texted that night), but couldn’t seal the SNL, but have a Day 2 planned for this week (she is really hot and not one of the three I refer to in this report).
Friday night I started at a sports bar in Costa Mesa with some buddies watching the Laker game. Then we moved on to a trendy spot up the street called Mesa Lounge. Walked in and stopped at the patio with my buddy to smoke. I noticed an older artsy hippie looking gal sitting out there by herself smoking. She turned out to be French so I’ll call her HbFrenchie. I can’t remember exactly what I said, but we chatted about my blue cigarettes, I touched her quite a bit, I made a few naughty innuendos, we exchanged numbers by me sending her a text message, and then I moved on to work the Mesa bar area. There were a lot of hot girls there, but I didn’t open too many sets. I guess it was because they were all mixed sets and I haven’t gotten comfortable with this part of the game yet. I still need some work on winning over the guys in the mixed set. We went to a bar next door and I layed the groundwork for a SNL with a hairstylist, but she got pulled out at closing time by her friend and she didn’t respond to me texts. I also tried to get HbFrenchie to come to my place. It was a no-go. Here are the texts between me and her on Friday night because they become relevant on Saturday. Here they are (she doesn’t have the best English):
HbFrenchie (April 30, 11:17pm): Hi nice to meet u. A### French girl
CtV (11:23): You too.
HbFrenchie (11:26): R u bored honey
CtV (11:29): Are you going to entertain me??
HbFrenchie (11:30): Yes or no
CtV (11:32): Yes
HbFrenchie (11:33): I was sure! I left from there
HbFrenchie (11:42): Did I bother u
CtV (11:46): Not at all. What are you doing?
HbFrenchie (11:50): Different place my friend like place at Newport more quiet
CtV (12:09): We were in Newport last night…the Quiet Woman.
HbFrenchie (12:20): Villa nova! Did I miss u
CtV (1:23): No. You didn’t miss me. You’ll be in Long Beach later right??
HbFrenchie (2:29): Honey am little bit drunk I cant drive
CtV (2:32): Hmm. Want me to come to your place??
HbFrenchie (2:33): Did u met a girl
CtV (2:36): I’m just dropping my friend off at his car in Costa Mesa.
HbFrenchie (2:43): Am sleeping I cant
So I just go home and go to bed.
Saturday turned out to be a crazy day and night. I ended up with 2 lays and 1 BJ by 3 different girls and no sleep. Saturday afternoon a girl from match.com came over under the premise of smoking some hookah and having a drink. She was visibly nervous when she arrived (she was wearing Gucci sunglasses - HbSunglasses), so I figured that since the underlying emails and texts were of a sexual nature, that I should just work on getting her comfortable. So I did lots of conversational material on my background, job, how ended up here in SoCal, favorite local places to hang, etc. I sprinkled in the Blowjob Line Palm read, my Genie bit, and palm massage (backrub). I stood up and had her show me the butt massage, turned around and put her hand on crotch, unzipped and it was “on”.
At 5:30 I head for a pub crawl that was organized my meetup.com If anyone hasn’t checked this out, I would highly recommend it for practicing social proof. Meetup.com consists of a bunch of groups in your particular area that get together based on mutual interests. I sign up for the social/drinking groups that have lots of members. I’ve been to a few of these events, there are always girls there – some hot, some not, but it’s a great venue for “working the room” going from set to set.
I decided since I just got laid that I was just going to go there to “practice” social proof. There is a decent mix of people there. The girls are mostly in their 30’s and 40’s. There are 4 bars on the crawl, so I get to work getting to know the girls and a couple of the dudes. I’m dressed totally different from everyone else with my black beanie and “rocker style” jacket with a t-shirt underneath. As I am meeting the girls, I start peppering in the sexual frames, being flirty, touching them, and getting to know several throughout the night. Fast forward to the last bar of the evening. We started the crawl about 6:00 and now its 11:30. My horniness has come back and I have a few targets in mind. My favorite of the bunch is pretty wasted at this point (she spilled her drink on me) and is being taken care of by her friends. Another target is married and has been flirting with me. I hint that we can discretely slip away to my place and I can tell she is intrigued by the notion, but don’t get the sense that it’s going to happen.
So this chubby chick with huge tits is standing by me and I haven’t spoken to her all night. I figure seeing those huge tits are better than going home alone so we exchange numbers. My default move when I get a number is to just send her a text message so she has my number as well. We’re standing with a group talking about these chocolate martinis they are drinking and we have the following secret text conversation:
CtV (11:26 pm): Hi
HbTitties (11:28): Hi r u ready 4 dessert?
CtV (11:30): Yes. Are you??
HbTitties (11:42): Always
CtV (11:45): Wait for me outside
HbTitties (11:48): Maybe if u’re lucky
So we meet outside and start walking toward my place. I am actually a little embarrassed walking into my building and I hope nobody sees me. We get to my pad, I get her top off and play with her titties and settle in for a BJ. She told me she was on her period which is fine by me because she is definitely not my type. We finish and she leaves around 12:30 am.
At around 3:00 am I get a call from HbFrenchie from Friday night. We had been texting throughout the evening and she says she is coming over. Here is the text conversation from Saturday:
HbFrenchie (May 1, 9:49pm): Hi baby
CtV (9:55): What’s up hot stuff??
HbFrenchie (9:56): What r u doing tonight?
CtV (10:04): I’m out in Long Beach right now. What are you doing??
HbFrenchie (10:06): Am having dinner
CtV (10:10) You’re welcome to come over later
HbFrenchie (10:12): Let me think!
HbFrenchie (10:30): Where do u live send me ur address
HbFrenchie (10:40): Do u change ur mind
CtV (10:44): No. When can you be here??
HbFrenchie (10:46): In two hour send me where u live
CtV (10:49): #### ##### ## Long Beach 90802
HbFrenchie (10:55): When I am there ill call u
CtV (10:59): Ok
HbFrenchie (11:15): Do u have something to drink
So HbFrenchie ended up being really fun. From the minute she walked in it was on and we got right to it. She kept saying “We” ‘We” (that means “Yes” in French) over and over while she was riding me. That was kinda cool. I’ve never heard that before!!
After sex debrief with the 3 girls from Saturday (I ask them what is was that compelled them to have sex with me):
HbSunglasses: She said it was on from my first email in which I told her I detected a hidden naughty side.
HbTitties: She said she had been watching me all night with the other girls and thought I was really cute.
HbFrenchie: She said she hadn’t had sex in 2 months and when I was touching her lower back on the smoking patio she couldn’t stop thinking about it.
SNL – Asian “Tila Tequila” like MILF in Orange County
This learning process is really fascinating. A lot of nights I get dressed up, go out, convince myself that there are no good sets to open, talk to 1 or 2 people, and go home feeling bad that I didn’t push myself harder. In fact I went out earlier in the week and sat at the bar and didn’t speak to anyone for the first hour. Other nights everything just seems to click and from the first set I’m in the “zone”. It’s been a week since my cold approach SNL (See my other post “SNL– 38 yr old pulls 22 yr old HB from the bar in Long Beach”). I didn’t think the next one would come so fast, but it did. Maybe its luck, maybe it’s some of the skills I’ve been learning. It’s probably a little bit of both. Here are the highlights of the evening…
It’s Friday night and my buddy and I decide to start at the District in Tustin. It’s a fairly new shopping center with a couple bars situated right next to each other. We start at a sushi place called “RA” with a beer and appetizer and I look around for anything that might look interesting. I see two “OC Housewife” looking blondes sitting at the bar with their backs to the crowd acting like they aren’t interested in talking to anyone. I walk by on the way back from the bathroom and the only thing I come up with to say is I tell them they are “adorable”. The look up at me and say “thanks” and then look back down at their cell phones. I keep walking as I’m thinking why I didn’t stay and chat, but they seemed so uninterested in what I had to say so I just basically blew myself out. We stay for a few more minutes and decide to see what’s going on at the Irish bar next door.
I’m at the bar ordering a drink and this Asian chick with fake tits and blonde streaks in her hair steps up to the bar right next to me and orders a Jack and Coke. She is wearing blue jeans with black boots up to her knees and a low cut top that shows off her boobs. She looks like a not as hot, watered down version of Tila Tequila. I open her and find out she is here with co-workers for Happy Hour.
Our “normal” conversation throughout the night consisted of college, sports, dancing, her kids (yes she has 2), birthdays (I find out she is 39), co-workers, occupations, plus I challenged her to thumb wrestling.
I’ve been working on incorporating Sexual Frames into my conversations. So the way my interactions have been going is – Opener, conversation, sexual frame, kino, conversation, kino, sexual frame, conversation, kino, pull attempt,etc, etc.
The sexual frames/innuendo/kino tonight consisted of (I tried to put them in order):
*You look like a nice girl with a serious hidden naughty side
*You have a very mischievous grin
*The Palm Reading Blow Job Line (see other reports for the routine)
*Touch her hair
*Genie - rub my head for 3 wishes (see other reports for the routine)
*Discretely touch her lower back
*Do you give good back rubs? Show me on my hand.
*Smell her perfume and playfully bite her neck
*Lightly tugged on the back of her hair right at the roots
*Saying to her “Do you know the naughty things I would be doing to you if we weren’t in a bar right now?”
*Telling her “I am going to tell you a secret”. I get up real close to her ear and instead I lightly lick and suck on her earlobe. Then I ask her “what did you think of that secret?” Then I said “I bet that made you wet.”
*I discretely placed her hand on my crotch when we were sitting on the patio
*Her rubbing my chest over my shirt
*I gave her some soft short kisses on the check and a couple quick ones on the lips
We spent about 3 hours getting to know each other at this bar. Half the time it was in the bar and the other half was outside on the patio. On the patio we ended up sitting with one of her co-workers/girlfriends who was a chubby troll like creature. Damn, even I couldn’t ask my buddy to jump on that grenade! I think she was a little pissed that my buddy wasn’t into her so I tried to keep her as entertained as possible while working on HbAsian. We exchanged phone numbers about 30 minutes into the interaction and talked about having lunch the next day about 2 hours in. I think this part was an important “time bridge” (credit Captain Jack) which subconsciously implied that we would get together another time in the future. I tried my first pull attempt halfway through our interaction by saying “let’s get out of here for a little bit”. She asked where we were going to go and I said “on an adventure”. She said she couldn’t leave her girlfriend so we ended up continuing to chill on the patio. Finally around 11:30 her “troll” friend wanted to leave so I told her to text me later and we could get together. Here is the text stream:
HbAsian (11:40): Damn your kisses are hot
CtV (11:41): You have me so turned on babe…
HbAsian (11:42): Mmmm yummy
CtV (11:50): I know…
HbAsian (11:51): Can’t wait to kiss your body
CtV (11:55): What part are you going to kiss first??
HbAsian (11:57): Your neck right behind your ears
CtV (11:59): Not fair. I’m going to tug on your hair right above your neck…
HbAsian (12:01): Then your chest…down your stomach
CtV (12:04): If you keep texting these things I’m going to have to come do naughty things to u
HbAsian (12:05): Prove it
CtV (12:06): Give me your address…
HbAsian (12:08): Haha. Really?
CtV (12:09): Yes…if you’re brave enough
HbAsian (12:12): ### Pxxxx, Irvine 92620
CtV (12:14): Is that the entire address or is there a unit number as well??
HbAsian (12:15): No unit number. It’s all the way by the Great Park. Are u sure? I can wait until tomorrow.
CtV (12:17): I’ll be there soon…
HbAsian (12:18): Call when you get close
HbAsian (12:20): My place is new so it may not show up on gps. Put in #### pxxxx if it doesn’t
So I get to her place around 12:45 and she is already in her pajama bottoms and a tank top. Her and her troll friend are sitting on the balcony smoking when I walk up. She answers the door and gives me a mini tour of the place. She leads me into the bedroom and tells me she’ll be right back and goes out to talk to her friend. She comes back in and I’m sitting on the bed. She pushes me to my back and straddles me. The pajama bottoms she had on had this little button flap on the back. I don’t really know how to describe it other then in those old western movies there is a guy walking around in long johns with a button up flap on the back. Bad mental image I know! I slid my hands underneath and grabbed her ass. I was thinking “I don’t even need to take her pajama bottoms off to have sex with her! I could just bend her over and unbutton the flap. I toyed with the idea in my head but ultimately decided I wanted to see her completely naked so I took off her tank top and pajamas. She ended up pretty good in bed, gave me a great bj, and let me titty fuck her at the end. The whole time we were having sex I was thinking “can her friend hear us? I wonder if I should try and invite her in and try for a 3-some.” I chickened out for a couple reasons (#1 being the most important deciding factor). #1 – Her friend was really ugly, and #2 - I didn’t want to spoil what was happening at the moment. So we finish and by this point it’s about 1:30 am so I tell her I have to go back to the bar to pick up my friend. I asked her what it was that made her want to invite me over and she says "it's when I told her a "secret" in her ear (which is me kissing and sucking on her ear lobe) and when I wes tugging on her hair." *Mental note* and good to know for the future. We part ways and I jump back in my car and drive back to the bar as I ponder what just happened tonight.
It’s Friday night and my buddy and I decide to start at the District in Tustin. It’s a fairly new shopping center with a couple bars situated right next to each other. We start at a sushi place called “RA” with a beer and appetizer and I look around for anything that might look interesting. I see two “OC Housewife” looking blondes sitting at the bar with their backs to the crowd acting like they aren’t interested in talking to anyone. I walk by on the way back from the bathroom and the only thing I come up with to say is I tell them they are “adorable”. The look up at me and say “thanks” and then look back down at their cell phones. I keep walking as I’m thinking why I didn’t stay and chat, but they seemed so uninterested in what I had to say so I just basically blew myself out. We stay for a few more minutes and decide to see what’s going on at the Irish bar next door.
I’m at the bar ordering a drink and this Asian chick with fake tits and blonde streaks in her hair steps up to the bar right next to me and orders a Jack and Coke. She is wearing blue jeans with black boots up to her knees and a low cut top that shows off her boobs. She looks like a not as hot, watered down version of Tila Tequila. I open her and find out she is here with co-workers for Happy Hour.
Our “normal” conversation throughout the night consisted of college, sports, dancing, her kids (yes she has 2), birthdays (I find out she is 39), co-workers, occupations, plus I challenged her to thumb wrestling.
I’ve been working on incorporating Sexual Frames into my conversations. So the way my interactions have been going is – Opener, conversation, sexual frame, kino, conversation, kino, sexual frame, conversation, kino, pull attempt,etc, etc.
The sexual frames/innuendo/kino tonight consisted of (I tried to put them in order):
*You look like a nice girl with a serious hidden naughty side
*You have a very mischievous grin
*The Palm Reading Blow Job Line (see other reports for the routine)
*Touch her hair
*Genie - rub my head for 3 wishes (see other reports for the routine)
*Discretely touch her lower back
*Do you give good back rubs? Show me on my hand.
*Smell her perfume and playfully bite her neck
*Lightly tugged on the back of her hair right at the roots
*Saying to her “Do you know the naughty things I would be doing to you if we weren’t in a bar right now?”
*Telling her “I am going to tell you a secret”. I get up real close to her ear and instead I lightly lick and suck on her earlobe. Then I ask her “what did you think of that secret?” Then I said “I bet that made you wet.”
*I discretely placed her hand on my crotch when we were sitting on the patio
*Her rubbing my chest over my shirt
*I gave her some soft short kisses on the check and a couple quick ones on the lips
We spent about 3 hours getting to know each other at this bar. Half the time it was in the bar and the other half was outside on the patio. On the patio we ended up sitting with one of her co-workers/girlfriends who was a chubby troll like creature. Damn, even I couldn’t ask my buddy to jump on that grenade! I think she was a little pissed that my buddy wasn’t into her so I tried to keep her as entertained as possible while working on HbAsian. We exchanged phone numbers about 30 minutes into the interaction and talked about having lunch the next day about 2 hours in. I think this part was an important “time bridge” (credit Captain Jack) which subconsciously implied that we would get together another time in the future. I tried my first pull attempt halfway through our interaction by saying “let’s get out of here for a little bit”. She asked where we were going to go and I said “on an adventure”. She said she couldn’t leave her girlfriend so we ended up continuing to chill on the patio. Finally around 11:30 her “troll” friend wanted to leave so I told her to text me later and we could get together. Here is the text stream:
HbAsian (11:40): Damn your kisses are hot
CtV (11:41): You have me so turned on babe…
HbAsian (11:42): Mmmm yummy
CtV (11:50): I know…
HbAsian (11:51): Can’t wait to kiss your body
CtV (11:55): What part are you going to kiss first??
HbAsian (11:57): Your neck right behind your ears
CtV (11:59): Not fair. I’m going to tug on your hair right above your neck…
HbAsian (12:01): Then your chest…down your stomach
CtV (12:04): If you keep texting these things I’m going to have to come do naughty things to u
HbAsian (12:05): Prove it
CtV (12:06): Give me your address…
HbAsian (12:08): Haha. Really?
CtV (12:09): Yes…if you’re brave enough
HbAsian (12:12): ### Pxxxx, Irvine 92620
CtV (12:14): Is that the entire address or is there a unit number as well??
HbAsian (12:15): No unit number. It’s all the way by the Great Park. Are u sure? I can wait until tomorrow.
CtV (12:17): I’ll be there soon…
HbAsian (12:18): Call when you get close
HbAsian (12:20): My place is new so it may not show up on gps. Put in #### pxxxx if it doesn’t
So I get to her place around 12:45 and she is already in her pajama bottoms and a tank top. Her and her troll friend are sitting on the balcony smoking when I walk up. She answers the door and gives me a mini tour of the place. She leads me into the bedroom and tells me she’ll be right back and goes out to talk to her friend. She comes back in and I’m sitting on the bed. She pushes me to my back and straddles me. The pajama bottoms she had on had this little button flap on the back. I don’t really know how to describe it other then in those old western movies there is a guy walking around in long johns with a button up flap on the back. Bad mental image I know! I slid my hands underneath and grabbed her ass. I was thinking “I don’t even need to take her pajama bottoms off to have sex with her! I could just bend her over and unbutton the flap. I toyed with the idea in my head but ultimately decided I wanted to see her completely naked so I took off her tank top and pajamas. She ended up pretty good in bed, gave me a great bj, and let me titty fuck her at the end. The whole time we were having sex I was thinking “can her friend hear us? I wonder if I should try and invite her in and try for a 3-some.” I chickened out for a couple reasons (#1 being the most important deciding factor). #1 – Her friend was really ugly, and #2 - I didn’t want to spoil what was happening at the moment. So we finish and by this point it’s about 1:30 am so I tell her I have to go back to the bar to pick up my friend. I asked her what it was that made her want to invite me over and she says "it's when I told her a "secret" in her ear (which is me kissing and sucking on her ear lobe) and when I wes tugging on her hair." *Mental note* and good to know for the future. We part ways and I jump back in my car and drive back to the bar as I ponder what just happened tonight.
SNL– 38 yr old pulls 22 yr old HB from the bar in Long Beach
So finally the pressure I have put on myself has subsided a little. I had been feeling off since I haven’t been able to do the bar/club pull since I had taken two boot camps (both were very good), one in February with Magic and the other in March with Nick Quick (Adonis). It seemed like it should have been so easy, especially since in relative terms, it seems so much easier getting the SNL through online dating. But I found the bar pull rather difficult. It could be my personality, partly which is influenced by a Mormon upbringing and the other part influenced by parents who are shy and fairly quiet. One would think by my age I would have this stuff handled, but I find it still haunts me.
The Long Beach Grand Prix was in town for the weekend. It’s Friday night and I’m at at the Auld Dubliner on Pine Street. I have an Irish buddy with me who is not part of the community but loves to go to Irish bars and drink, so it’s the perfect place. I live in downtown Long Beach so I can walk to all the major downtown hot spots from my pad. I have been experimenting with different looks, so I wore a beanie out tonight. I’ve noticed it gives girls a kind of artsy/surfer kind of vibe (even though I’m neither).
I’m on the patio and Hb22 comes out to smoke. She is black, 5'4", probably 100 lbs and she is wearing a short mini-skirt. Later I would find out that she was a school teacher. She is closer to my friend at this point so they start some idle chit chat for a few minutes and she leaves and goes back inside. 20 minutes later she comes back out with her friend. My buddy starts talking to her friend. I’m smoking this electronic cigarette where the tip lights up blue when you inhale. I’ve found this gadget is a great way to get opened by girls, and I buy the flavored cartridges with no nicotine so I’m not fucking up my lungs. She asks me about it. This starts a conversation for about 90 minutes so I won’t get into all of it here, but I was rolling back and forth between normal stuff (work, hobbies, interests, etc) and very sexual stuff. I’ve been working on setting these frames the past couple months. You might recognize some of the stuff from some of my other posts.
Here are the sexual frames I set during the conversation (and then I would go back to normal convo stuff which I don’t list below):
CtV: “You look like a nice girl with a serious hidden naughty side”.
Hb22: “OMG, if you only knew!”
10 minutes later…I read her palm. I show her the 3 lines on her palm, life, love, and intellect. I tell her that “her life lines means she is a very adventurous person and lives by her own set of rules, her love line shows me she is a very romantic and giving person, her intellect shows me she is creative and probably says very naughty things in the bedroom. And you see this small line here. It’s your blowjob line and its way too short”.
15 minutes later…She rubs my bald head like I am a genie and she will get 3 wishes. I tell her the 3 wishes she gets are “multiple orgasms whenever she wants, her and her family gets to live forever, and she gets to have mind blowing sex with me tonight”.
Later in the conversation (as I’m discretely rubbing her lower back just above her ass crack)…
CtV: “Tell me a secret”.
Hb22: “I can’t tell you. You might get the wrong impression about me” (when I hear this, it means she is trying to subtly say she wants to be naughty without coming right out and saying it).
I tried for the pull here. I told her “we can get out of here for a little while and go on an adventure”. I could tell he was thinking about it for a little bit, but she ultimately said no, that. she couldn’t leave her friend.
Two girls come out to the patio. They dig my blue cigarette and start a conversation. Before I know it one of them touching me is asking me to pose in pictures with them. I totally ignore Hb22 for a couple minutes (in hindsight I think this gave me huge social proof and allowed my 2nd pull attempt to be successful).
Later in the conversation…
CtV: “Do you know the naughty things I would be doing to you if we weren’t in a bar right now”?
Hb22: “No, tell me”.
CtV (whispering): “I would kiss my way from your knees up your thigh all the way to your wet pussy”.
Later in the conversation…
I tell her I’m going to tell her a secret, and I get real close up into her ear and instead kiss and suck her ear for a few seconds (she hears this and closes her eyes and bites her upper lip).
Here is where I go for the pull the 2nd time…
CtV: “We need to be discrete so your friend won’t find out. My friend will keep her company while we’re gone”.
Hb22: “I don’t know. I want to but..”
CtV (I hold her hand and say to her friend): Don’t we make a cute couple? Can I borrow her for a sec? Her friend says “sure” and we walk out of the bar.
As we’re walking I’m thinking to myself that I need to keep her occupied until we get to my place. I decide to play 20 questions as we’re walking to my place. No sexual questions though. I ask her about her most embarrassing moment, what she wanted to be when she was a little girl..stuff like that. Twice as we were walking to me place she says “this is so bad, I can’t leave my friend like this”. The first time I reassured her that my friend was cool and was going to entertain her friend. The second time I pretended like I didn’t hear her and just kept going with the questions. We start making out in the elevator on the way up to my place. We walk in to my place and she jumps on my and wraps her legs around me. From there it was on! I have to admit it wasn’t my best performance. I was tired from being out all day in the sun and I had been drinking. I went through periods of being totally hard and then it would slip out and it would be soft again. Fuck that sucks. I couldn’t get her to blow me either so that didn’t help. It doesn’t happen to me often but it sucks it when it does. 30 minutes later we are walking back to the bar. It was kind of quiet. It’s funny how you run out of things to say after you’ve been laid. I chilled with my bud, her, and her friend until the bar closed a little while later.
So what did I learn?:
*You don’t need to kiss or make-out in the venue to amp up the sexual vibe
*It was great to have a wing to occupy her friend and help with logistics (even though he had no idea what happened until I told him later that night after we parted ways with the girls)
*The social proof from the other girls helped push the interaction to the level I needed for the pull
*Don’t give up. It would have been easy to move to another set after the first pull attempt failed.
The Long Beach Grand Prix was in town for the weekend. It’s Friday night and I’m at at the Auld Dubliner on Pine Street. I have an Irish buddy with me who is not part of the community but loves to go to Irish bars and drink, so it’s the perfect place. I live in downtown Long Beach so I can walk to all the major downtown hot spots from my pad. I have been experimenting with different looks, so I wore a beanie out tonight. I’ve noticed it gives girls a kind of artsy/surfer kind of vibe (even though I’m neither).
I’m on the patio and Hb22 comes out to smoke. She is black, 5'4", probably 100 lbs and she is wearing a short mini-skirt. Later I would find out that she was a school teacher. She is closer to my friend at this point so they start some idle chit chat for a few minutes and she leaves and goes back inside. 20 minutes later she comes back out with her friend. My buddy starts talking to her friend. I’m smoking this electronic cigarette where the tip lights up blue when you inhale. I’ve found this gadget is a great way to get opened by girls, and I buy the flavored cartridges with no nicotine so I’m not fucking up my lungs. She asks me about it. This starts a conversation for about 90 minutes so I won’t get into all of it here, but I was rolling back and forth between normal stuff (work, hobbies, interests, etc) and very sexual stuff. I’ve been working on setting these frames the past couple months. You might recognize some of the stuff from some of my other posts.
Here are the sexual frames I set during the conversation (and then I would go back to normal convo stuff which I don’t list below):
CtV: “You look like a nice girl with a serious hidden naughty side”.
Hb22: “OMG, if you only knew!”
10 minutes later…I read her palm. I show her the 3 lines on her palm, life, love, and intellect. I tell her that “her life lines means she is a very adventurous person and lives by her own set of rules, her love line shows me she is a very romantic and giving person, her intellect shows me she is creative and probably says very naughty things in the bedroom. And you see this small line here. It’s your blowjob line and its way too short”.
15 minutes later…She rubs my bald head like I am a genie and she will get 3 wishes. I tell her the 3 wishes she gets are “multiple orgasms whenever she wants, her and her family gets to live forever, and she gets to have mind blowing sex with me tonight”.
Later in the conversation (as I’m discretely rubbing her lower back just above her ass crack)…
CtV: “Tell me a secret”.
Hb22: “I can’t tell you. You might get the wrong impression about me” (when I hear this, it means she is trying to subtly say she wants to be naughty without coming right out and saying it).
I tried for the pull here. I told her “we can get out of here for a little while and go on an adventure”. I could tell he was thinking about it for a little bit, but she ultimately said no, that. she couldn’t leave her friend.
Two girls come out to the patio. They dig my blue cigarette and start a conversation. Before I know it one of them touching me is asking me to pose in pictures with them. I totally ignore Hb22 for a couple minutes (in hindsight I think this gave me huge social proof and allowed my 2nd pull attempt to be successful).
Later in the conversation…
CtV: “Do you know the naughty things I would be doing to you if we weren’t in a bar right now”?
Hb22: “No, tell me”.
CtV (whispering): “I would kiss my way from your knees up your thigh all the way to your wet pussy”.
Later in the conversation…
I tell her I’m going to tell her a secret, and I get real close up into her ear and instead kiss and suck her ear for a few seconds (she hears this and closes her eyes and bites her upper lip).
Here is where I go for the pull the 2nd time…
CtV: “We need to be discrete so your friend won’t find out. My friend will keep her company while we’re gone”.
Hb22: “I don’t know. I want to but..”
CtV (I hold her hand and say to her friend): Don’t we make a cute couple? Can I borrow her for a sec? Her friend says “sure” and we walk out of the bar.
As we’re walking I’m thinking to myself that I need to keep her occupied until we get to my place. I decide to play 20 questions as we’re walking to my place. No sexual questions though. I ask her about her most embarrassing moment, what she wanted to be when she was a little girl..stuff like that. Twice as we were walking to me place she says “this is so bad, I can’t leave my friend like this”. The first time I reassured her that my friend was cool and was going to entertain her friend. The second time I pretended like I didn’t hear her and just kept going with the questions. We start making out in the elevator on the way up to my place. We walk in to my place and she jumps on my and wraps her legs around me. From there it was on! I have to admit it wasn’t my best performance. I was tired from being out all day in the sun and I had been drinking. I went through periods of being totally hard and then it would slip out and it would be soft again. Fuck that sucks. I couldn’t get her to blow me either so that didn’t help. It doesn’t happen to me often but it sucks it when it does. 30 minutes later we are walking back to the bar. It was kind of quiet. It’s funny how you run out of things to say after you’ve been laid. I chilled with my bud, her, and her friend until the bar closed a little while later.
So what did I learn?:
*You don’t need to kiss or make-out in the venue to amp up the sexual vibe
*It was great to have a wing to occupy her friend and help with logistics (even though he had no idea what happened until I told him later that night after we parted ways with the girls)
*The social proof from the other girls helped push the interaction to the level I needed for the pull
*Don’t give up. It would have been easy to move to another set after the first pull attempt failed.
Field Report - Day 1
Ok, so I’ve been to 2 boot camps now, and have decided to change my focus from online game to cold approach pick-up. You don’t realize how spoiled you get with the online stuff until you go out to a bar or club and start interacting with females. I had decided that the month of April was going to be my sargefest, to figure out and start incorporating the SNL material I had learned from directly from Magic and Nick Quick. Material I have studied and want to incorporate:
• Magic
• Brad P
• Nick Quick (Adonis)
• Captain Jack
I’ve been out every night so far in April, I just haven’t had a chance to write the reports yet. Here is Day 1.
April 1, 2010
Mentally this day ended up being really fucking hard! It ends up for work; I had to fly to Oakland for the day. So I drag my ass out of bed at 3:45 am and up to LAX and out to Oakland. I spend the day up there and get back to LAX at 9:00 pm that night. I haven’t had a shower, my contact lenses are glued to my eyeballs from being in all day, and my mind is telling me just to go home and go to bed. I tell myself, “fuck it”, just start driving toward a venue and it will force me to get out there.
I’m by myself with no wing, so I decided on Foxfire Lounge in Anaheim Hills. I figure my first night of 30 in a row; I should go to Cougarville USA to kick it off with a bang. This place is known for its cougars, I would say the hottest girls in the place are in the 7-8 range, so it’s nothing like the LA scene or South Orange County.
Set #1 – 2 set, black and Hispanic girl from Tustin sitting at the bar. I stand next to them to order a drink. The bartender never comes so I sit there and talk to them for 10 minutes. I play with Hispanic girls hair, talk about cool places to hang out in LB, run naughty girl/nice girl, we talk fashion, I start a little kino, but they are kind of boring. I want to practice on more sets so I move on. Next time the SNL Frame will be – You two look like the wildest chicks in this place. You know how I tell? You’re both so quiet. That means you’re trouble.
Set #2 – 2 set at the end of the bar, blonde hairdresser and her friend. Both are a little chunky, but what the hell. I open with “what do I have to do to get a drink around here, take off my shirt?” She tells me I need to show more cleavage. I touch her hair and tell her “it’s really nice”, but not as nice as mine, read her palm and start this routine I learned from Nick in which the 3 major lines on the palm all have some sort of underlying sexual meaning. The 3 lines are life, love, and intellect. The life shows me that you’re very adventurous and live by your own set of rules; your love line tells me you’re a very romantic and giving person. You’re intellect tells me that you’re creative and you probably say really naughty things in bed. Now here is the money line. I point out a small line on her palm and tell her it is her blowjob line and its waaayyyy too short! She cracks up, loves this and we start talking blowjobs, why all girls think they are good at doing it, her technique with her wrist. I tell her we’re going to get married and she can give me a BJ every morning before work. Then she brings her friend in and asks me to read her palm. I don’t want to be a dancing monkey so I compare her finger lengths and go into a routine about testosterone and estrogen and how finger length can indicate what she has more of. They take my hand and measure from palm to the end of my finger tips and tell me that’s how long my cock is. At this point I’m thinking, holy shit! Maybe I can pull both girls. My enthusiasm was short lived as guys from everywhere were approaching these girls and I was having trouble keeping their attention. I’m wondering if I was too sexual and should have changed topics for a little while to get into that push/pull kind of a rhythm. Plus these girls were no prize either. In a regular club filled with top flight women I wouldn’t even look twice at these girls. I move on. Next time the SNL Frame will be – Get them to invest in the interaction more. Ask them what is awesome about them, what do you have going for you other than their looks?
Set #3 – 2 set on the smoking patio, a Hispanic and tall skanky blonde. I’ll call them Barslut #1 and Barslut #2. This ended up being my best set of the night with BS#1. I approach and ask them if “this is where the cool people hang out”. We banter a bit, I start some kino on BS#1, but they finish their cigarettes and go inside to look for their friends. I move on.
Set #4 – I see a blonde in a red dress (another bar slut) in the smoking area, we’ll call her Barslut #3. I say “hi” and she is immediately hanging all over me, arms around my shoulders like I am some prize. I tell her she looks like a naughty girl and I ask her what the wildest adventure she has had at this place. She says she can’t tell me the details but says it’s very X-rated. At this point I am envisioning her sucking my dick in my car over in the parking lot. While I was trying to come up with a good way to pull her out, she starts telling me I should buy her a drink and she tries to drag me to the bar. I’m thinking to myself, there is no way in hell I am buying this chick a fucking drink!! I mean maybe if she came out to my car and gave me a BJ I would come back in and get her a drink. Maybe not! Hmmm…but I don’t think I can tell her that. Honestly she is not even hot enough for me to be seen with back on the inside of the club so I eject and start on Set #5 (later I see her with a drink in her hand, all over some other guy). Next time the SNL Frame will be – I’m not going to buy you one drink, I’m going to by you 1000 drinks. But you have to earn it.
Set #5 – 3 set on smoking patio, ends up being BS #1 and two chubby chicks. I tell them I need a bodyguard from BS#3, BS #1 asks me to go dance with her. We’re out on the dance floor and she asks me if I’m gay? WTF? Ok, I guess it’s the way I dress and partly because of my vocal tonality, (which I am working on) it comes across this way, so I rub up against her and say “Yes, since I’m so gay it won’t bother you if I do this”. I asked her what made her think that and she said I was “too nice”. She drags me to the bar and wants me to buy her a drink. This is a red flag and I’m telling myself don’t do it – don’t do it. But I’m a pussy and I do it anyway. I buy her a fucking drink. While we’re standing there she asks what I’m looking for and if I’m looking just to hook up. Here is where my mind fucks with me again. I think that she wants to hear, “No..I’m not looking just to hook up” so I tell her I have no expectations. What she was probably doing was screening me to see if there was a possibility of getting laid. Next time the SNL Frame will be – I’m looking for an adventure. There are many different ways to make a connection with someone. Our bodies would fit together nicely.
A few minutes later I am back on the smoking patio with BS#1. She asks me again if I am looking for a cougar, am I just looking to hook up tonight, and she tells me that she has had 4 one night stands from this place. I don’t remember how I transitioned to the topic, but I wanted to hit on the 5 objections that women have in their mind with respect to hooking up I learned from the Nick Quick boot camp. 1) She doesn’t want to feel like a slut, 2) She doesn’t want to get an STD, 3) She doesn’t want to get pregnant, 4) She doesn’t want to be judged, and 5) She doesn’t want to be stalked. I tell her I am not judgmental and that if it makes her feel good then it’s cool. I tell her I get the vibe that she doesn’t worry about what other people think. Then I told a condom story which is planned to convey that I am a safe sex guy and she doesn’t have to worry about getting pregnant or any STD’s. This is where I fucked up. My old way of thinking came into play, so when she asked me if I was looking for a cougar I said no. Why did I say this when in fact that is exactly what I was looking for? My mind is conditioned to respond in a way that indicates I’m not looking to hook up because in my faulty way of thinking, that’s what I think girls want to hear. BS#1 asks me to go dance again and we go and dance and grind on each other. After the dance she goes to the bar to get another drink and asks me if I want one. I say “no”. Next time the SNL Frame will be – Older women really turn me on. They are so sexy the way they carry themselves and move their bodies.
Set #6 – Hispanic chick with big tits. She is sitting at a table and sees my walking by and opens me. She says, that girl you were with is dangerous (BS#1). I say what do you mean? And she goes into a rap about how she is a regular and leaves with a lot of guys (I’m thinking to myself, perfect because I want to fuck BS#1). We chat a little bit more about how often she comes here, the craziest shit she has seen go down at the place, etc. She tells me she has seen a girl blow a guy on the dance floor. Then I eject! Why why why?? She may have been DTF herself but I never gave myself the chance to find out. Next time the SNL Frame will be – I’m just a single guy here to get laid so thanks for the tip.
Set #7 – A Middle Eastern looking girl in the blue dress and her friend are laughing when I walk by. I stop and I ask who they are making fun of on the dance floor. I kino and touch her hair, she rubs my bald head and I run genie on her (this is a routine where I tell her she gets 3 wishes), show her the Long Beach handshake. Banter for a few minutes and then eject. I see her again out by the patio, she says I am following her, I call her a stalker. Not too happy with my performance here. Again, why did I net set a sexual frame like I have been taught? Next time the SNL Frame will be – When I run genie, I’m going to pick the 3 wishes for the girl. 1) You get multiple orgasms whenever you desire, 2)you and your family get to live forever (they can’t all be sexual), 3) and you get to secretly have sex with me tonight.
Back on the smoking patio with BS#1. She is telling me that she thinks she is too wild and crazy for me. This statement right there tells me that she was DTF, but throughout the night I wasn’t biting on the clues she was giving me. It’s about 12:30am and I’m trying to get her to come out to my car with me, but she wants to stay in the bar. Maybe I am being to blatant about it and need to give her some sort of plausible deniability. I tell her I have to leave soon, and she seems disappointed. We exchange phone numbers some hugs and a few pecks and I’m out of there. Next time the SNL Frame will be – I have this awesome CD that I want you to hear. Let’s go out to my car and listen to it. We can be discrete. You go first and I’ll come out 3 minutes later.
So what did I learn from this night? That there are subtle hints being dropped all the time be females and if you can recognize when this is happening, your success rate should increase dramatically. The BS#1 was down to fuck and was testing me to see if I was down and was going to be judgmental or not. I fell into my old trap of telling her what I think she wants to hear, rather than going with the sexual frame from the start and escalating it from there and going for the pull.
• Magic
• Brad P
• Nick Quick (Adonis)
• Captain Jack
I’ve been out every night so far in April, I just haven’t had a chance to write the reports yet. Here is Day 1.
April 1, 2010
Mentally this day ended up being really fucking hard! It ends up for work; I had to fly to Oakland for the day. So I drag my ass out of bed at 3:45 am and up to LAX and out to Oakland. I spend the day up there and get back to LAX at 9:00 pm that night. I haven’t had a shower, my contact lenses are glued to my eyeballs from being in all day, and my mind is telling me just to go home and go to bed. I tell myself, “fuck it”, just start driving toward a venue and it will force me to get out there.
I’m by myself with no wing, so I decided on Foxfire Lounge in Anaheim Hills. I figure my first night of 30 in a row; I should go to Cougarville USA to kick it off with a bang. This place is known for its cougars, I would say the hottest girls in the place are in the 7-8 range, so it’s nothing like the LA scene or South Orange County.
Set #1 – 2 set, black and Hispanic girl from Tustin sitting at the bar. I stand next to them to order a drink. The bartender never comes so I sit there and talk to them for 10 minutes. I play with Hispanic girls hair, talk about cool places to hang out in LB, run naughty girl/nice girl, we talk fashion, I start a little kino, but they are kind of boring. I want to practice on more sets so I move on. Next time the SNL Frame will be – You two look like the wildest chicks in this place. You know how I tell? You’re both so quiet. That means you’re trouble.
Set #2 – 2 set at the end of the bar, blonde hairdresser and her friend. Both are a little chunky, but what the hell. I open with “what do I have to do to get a drink around here, take off my shirt?” She tells me I need to show more cleavage. I touch her hair and tell her “it’s really nice”, but not as nice as mine, read her palm and start this routine I learned from Nick in which the 3 major lines on the palm all have some sort of underlying sexual meaning. The 3 lines are life, love, and intellect. The life shows me that you’re very adventurous and live by your own set of rules; your love line tells me you’re a very romantic and giving person. You’re intellect tells me that you’re creative and you probably say really naughty things in bed. Now here is the money line. I point out a small line on her palm and tell her it is her blowjob line and its waaayyyy too short! She cracks up, loves this and we start talking blowjobs, why all girls think they are good at doing it, her technique with her wrist. I tell her we’re going to get married and she can give me a BJ every morning before work. Then she brings her friend in and asks me to read her palm. I don’t want to be a dancing monkey so I compare her finger lengths and go into a routine about testosterone and estrogen and how finger length can indicate what she has more of. They take my hand and measure from palm to the end of my finger tips and tell me that’s how long my cock is. At this point I’m thinking, holy shit! Maybe I can pull both girls. My enthusiasm was short lived as guys from everywhere were approaching these girls and I was having trouble keeping their attention. I’m wondering if I was too sexual and should have changed topics for a little while to get into that push/pull kind of a rhythm. Plus these girls were no prize either. In a regular club filled with top flight women I wouldn’t even look twice at these girls. I move on. Next time the SNL Frame will be – Get them to invest in the interaction more. Ask them what is awesome about them, what do you have going for you other than their looks?
Set #3 – 2 set on the smoking patio, a Hispanic and tall skanky blonde. I’ll call them Barslut #1 and Barslut #2. This ended up being my best set of the night with BS#1. I approach and ask them if “this is where the cool people hang out”. We banter a bit, I start some kino on BS#1, but they finish their cigarettes and go inside to look for their friends. I move on.
Set #4 – I see a blonde in a red dress (another bar slut) in the smoking area, we’ll call her Barslut #3. I say “hi” and she is immediately hanging all over me, arms around my shoulders like I am some prize. I tell her she looks like a naughty girl and I ask her what the wildest adventure she has had at this place. She says she can’t tell me the details but says it’s very X-rated. At this point I am envisioning her sucking my dick in my car over in the parking lot. While I was trying to come up with a good way to pull her out, she starts telling me I should buy her a drink and she tries to drag me to the bar. I’m thinking to myself, there is no way in hell I am buying this chick a fucking drink!! I mean maybe if she came out to my car and gave me a BJ I would come back in and get her a drink. Maybe not! Hmmm…but I don’t think I can tell her that. Honestly she is not even hot enough for me to be seen with back on the inside of the club so I eject and start on Set #5 (later I see her with a drink in her hand, all over some other guy). Next time the SNL Frame will be – I’m not going to buy you one drink, I’m going to by you 1000 drinks. But you have to earn it.
Set #5 – 3 set on smoking patio, ends up being BS #1 and two chubby chicks. I tell them I need a bodyguard from BS#3, BS #1 asks me to go dance with her. We’re out on the dance floor and she asks me if I’m gay? WTF? Ok, I guess it’s the way I dress and partly because of my vocal tonality, (which I am working on) it comes across this way, so I rub up against her and say “Yes, since I’m so gay it won’t bother you if I do this”. I asked her what made her think that and she said I was “too nice”. She drags me to the bar and wants me to buy her a drink. This is a red flag and I’m telling myself don’t do it – don’t do it. But I’m a pussy and I do it anyway. I buy her a fucking drink. While we’re standing there she asks what I’m looking for and if I’m looking just to hook up. Here is where my mind fucks with me again. I think that she wants to hear, “No..I’m not looking just to hook up” so I tell her I have no expectations. What she was probably doing was screening me to see if there was a possibility of getting laid. Next time the SNL Frame will be – I’m looking for an adventure. There are many different ways to make a connection with someone. Our bodies would fit together nicely.
A few minutes later I am back on the smoking patio with BS#1. She asks me again if I am looking for a cougar, am I just looking to hook up tonight, and she tells me that she has had 4 one night stands from this place. I don’t remember how I transitioned to the topic, but I wanted to hit on the 5 objections that women have in their mind with respect to hooking up I learned from the Nick Quick boot camp. 1) She doesn’t want to feel like a slut, 2) She doesn’t want to get an STD, 3) She doesn’t want to get pregnant, 4) She doesn’t want to be judged, and 5) She doesn’t want to be stalked. I tell her I am not judgmental and that if it makes her feel good then it’s cool. I tell her I get the vibe that she doesn’t worry about what other people think. Then I told a condom story which is planned to convey that I am a safe sex guy and she doesn’t have to worry about getting pregnant or any STD’s. This is where I fucked up. My old way of thinking came into play, so when she asked me if I was looking for a cougar I said no. Why did I say this when in fact that is exactly what I was looking for? My mind is conditioned to respond in a way that indicates I’m not looking to hook up because in my faulty way of thinking, that’s what I think girls want to hear. BS#1 asks me to go dance again and we go and dance and grind on each other. After the dance she goes to the bar to get another drink and asks me if I want one. I say “no”. Next time the SNL Frame will be – Older women really turn me on. They are so sexy the way they carry themselves and move their bodies.
Set #6 – Hispanic chick with big tits. She is sitting at a table and sees my walking by and opens me. She says, that girl you were with is dangerous (BS#1). I say what do you mean? And she goes into a rap about how she is a regular and leaves with a lot of guys (I’m thinking to myself, perfect because I want to fuck BS#1). We chat a little bit more about how often she comes here, the craziest shit she has seen go down at the place, etc. She tells me she has seen a girl blow a guy on the dance floor. Then I eject! Why why why?? She may have been DTF herself but I never gave myself the chance to find out. Next time the SNL Frame will be – I’m just a single guy here to get laid so thanks for the tip.
Set #7 – A Middle Eastern looking girl in the blue dress and her friend are laughing when I walk by. I stop and I ask who they are making fun of on the dance floor. I kino and touch her hair, she rubs my bald head and I run genie on her (this is a routine where I tell her she gets 3 wishes), show her the Long Beach handshake. Banter for a few minutes and then eject. I see her again out by the patio, she says I am following her, I call her a stalker. Not too happy with my performance here. Again, why did I net set a sexual frame like I have been taught? Next time the SNL Frame will be – When I run genie, I’m going to pick the 3 wishes for the girl. 1) You get multiple orgasms whenever you desire, 2)you and your family get to live forever (they can’t all be sexual), 3) and you get to secretly have sex with me tonight.
Back on the smoking patio with BS#1. She is telling me that she thinks she is too wild and crazy for me. This statement right there tells me that she was DTF, but throughout the night I wasn’t biting on the clues she was giving me. It’s about 12:30am and I’m trying to get her to come out to my car with me, but she wants to stay in the bar. Maybe I am being to blatant about it and need to give her some sort of plausible deniability. I tell her I have to leave soon, and she seems disappointed. We exchange phone numbers some hugs and a few pecks and I’m out of there. Next time the SNL Frame will be – I have this awesome CD that I want you to hear. Let’s go out to my car and listen to it. We can be discrete. You go first and I’ll come out 3 minutes later.
So what did I learn from this night? That there are subtle hints being dropped all the time be females and if you can recognize when this is happening, your success rate should increase dramatically. The BS#1 was down to fuck and was testing me to see if I was down and was going to be judgmental or not. I fell into my old trap of telling her what I think she wants to hear, rather than going with the sexual frame from the start and escalating it from there and going for the pull.
POF Lay Report - My Birthday Weekend in Vegas
I went to Vegas to celebrate my birthday and get some SNL training from Nick Quick. I had set up a couple "meet & greets" with some girls online. I met one Friday morning for coffee, she flaked on me later that night, so I used some erotic texting to get her in the mood for Saturday night. The report below goes through all the details.
Before I came to Vegas, I emailed a few girls from POF letting them know I was coming to Vegas and it would be cool to get together and hang out. I ended up meeting one of these girls Friday Mar 12 in the morning for coffee. We talked for about an hour, took a walk around the playground, held hands, kissed, pushed the kino with a lot of fully body contact and groping, and I suggested we go back to her place and hang before she had to leave for work, but I couldn’t get her to accept the offer. I told her I was going to a “dating seminar” later that evening (hooked up with Nick Quick) and maybe we could hang out afterward. I sent her a text after our Friday night session ended:
Me (Mar 13, 2:15 am): Hey sleepy head. Before I get comfy I can still come tuck you in.
Her (Mar 13, 2:17 am): I know..but I am pretty much in already. So I must say good nite lovely..
Her (Mar 13, 7:10 am): Sorry about last night. I would have been no good to you. I was tired but more then that I had way too much to drink!
Since I was unsuccessful getting together with her Friday night, I decided to go for broke and try some of the Nancy Friday stuff we talked about during our day session and I had used previously before (see my other posts). I found some pages of “My Secret Garden” online and started typing in some of the erotic stuff word for word and sending them as text messages as you will read below.
Me (Mar 13, 12:28 pm): It will be dark when I get there. You will be completely turned on when I arrive because you have been touching yourself all night with anticipation.
Her (Mar 13, 12:29 pm): Was this message meant for me?
Me (Mar 13, 12:29 pm): I walk in and lay next to you on the bed, and start rubbing your shoulders & lower back, working my way down to your ass, as my hand starts rubbing your thigh
Me (Mar 13, 12:30 pm): You turn over and feel my hard cock pressing against your stomach. You kiss me hard as I fondle your breasts, and we begin sucking on each others tongues.
Me (Mar 13, 12:30 pm): Yes...
Her (Mar 13, 12:31 pm): Wow..really?
Me (Mar 13, 12:31 pm): You kiss your way down my chest, to my navel, and lick the head of my cock, as you feel it growing bigger in your mouth. You love my cock and how good it tastes
Me (Mar 13, 12:32 pm): You are so hot now, you can barely stand it, as your pussy drips wet, throbbing and twitching with anticipation.
Her (Mar 13, 12:32 pm): Ok.. So now that I am completely turned on and a bit surprised by the aggression.. You just threw me off center
Me (Mar 13, 12:33 pm): That's a little glimpse for you of what might have happened last night...
Her (Mar 13, 12:33 pm): Where is this coming from?
Me (Mar 13, 12:35 pm): its coming from inside my head :)
Her (Mar 13, 12:35 pm): Shoot. I am so wet right now you are a very naughty boy!
Me (Mar 13, 12:37 pm): I am with the right person...
Her (Mar 13, 12:37 pm): So are you saying I've missed my opportunity? Ok.. I have to go Masterbate now.. What am I gonna do with my kid:-@
Her (Mar 13, 12:38 pm): Both of them?
Her (Mar 13, 12:40 pm): Ok so I am not wearing underware right now and my Thighs are wet! Thanks Mr.
Me (Mar 13, 12:41 pm): The little head does the physical labor, the big head sits behind a desk and is the mastermind behind the operation.
Her (Mar 13, 12:42 pm): LOVES IT!
Her (Mar 13, 5:30 pm): Whatcha doin?
Me (Mar 13, 5:41 pm): We're still in the session. Don't make any plans around what I have going tonight. Its not looking good for me getting free any earlier then last night.
Me (Mar 13, 5:41 pm): You're still sexy :)
Her (Mar 13, 5:48 pm): Well lets just say when and if you make that call you wont be dissapointed. Bxxxx is spending the night at a friends. So when your out with your boys having your "group therapy" there is a sexy hot Woman alone in her bed!
Me (Mar 14, 3:22 am): If you're still up for company I would love to come see you.
Her (Mar 14, 3:23 am): I would love that as well. Where are you?
Me (Mar 14, 3:24 am): Just getting ready to leave the strip. Can you text me your address?
Her (Mar 14, 3:25 am): 821 xxxxxx Ln. Lv Nv 89144
Me (Mar 14, 3:28 am): Be there soon.
Her (Mar 14, 3:28 am): BTW my little one is here. Asleep of course. He couldnt bear to leave Mommy tonight. It is no problem. Just wanted you to know. Do have to take you friend home first?
Me (Mar 14, 3:31 am): No worries.
Her (Mar 14, 3:23 am): :)
Her (Mar 14, 3:33 am): Oh my address plaque on the garage, the bulb is out a bit hard to see but the porch light is on.
Me (Mar 14, 3:33 am): Ok.
Her (Mar 14, 4:06 am): Have you left yet?
Me (Mar 14, 4:06 am): Yes..I'm 5 mins away
Her (Mar 14, 4:07 am): :)
Her (Mar 14, 5:09 am): Thank You;-) I had a lovely very early morning! Smiles on my face:-) kisses.
Her (Mar 14, 5:13 am): Drive safe.
Me (Mar 14, 5:17 am): I will hun.
Her (Mar 14, 7:31 am): Wow! sort of can't stop thinking about you and a few hours ago:-*
While we were laying on the bed chilling after our hot sex session, I asked her what it was that motivated her to invite me over. She said she had been wet all day long from the erotic text messages I had sent her and couldn’t stop thinking about having sex with me after she read them.
Before I came to Vegas, I emailed a few girls from POF letting them know I was coming to Vegas and it would be cool to get together and hang out. I ended up meeting one of these girls Friday Mar 12 in the morning for coffee. We talked for about an hour, took a walk around the playground, held hands, kissed, pushed the kino with a lot of fully body contact and groping, and I suggested we go back to her place and hang before she had to leave for work, but I couldn’t get her to accept the offer. I told her I was going to a “dating seminar” later that evening (hooked up with Nick Quick) and maybe we could hang out afterward. I sent her a text after our Friday night session ended:
Me (Mar 13, 2:15 am): Hey sleepy head. Before I get comfy I can still come tuck you in.
Her (Mar 13, 2:17 am): I know..but I am pretty much in already. So I must say good nite lovely..
Her (Mar 13, 7:10 am): Sorry about last night. I would have been no good to you. I was tired but more then that I had way too much to drink!
Since I was unsuccessful getting together with her Friday night, I decided to go for broke and try some of the Nancy Friday stuff we talked about during our day session and I had used previously before (see my other posts). I found some pages of “My Secret Garden” online and started typing in some of the erotic stuff word for word and sending them as text messages as you will read below.
Me (Mar 13, 12:28 pm): It will be dark when I get there. You will be completely turned on when I arrive because you have been touching yourself all night with anticipation.
Her (Mar 13, 12:29 pm): Was this message meant for me?
Me (Mar 13, 12:29 pm): I walk in and lay next to you on the bed, and start rubbing your shoulders & lower back, working my way down to your ass, as my hand starts rubbing your thigh
Me (Mar 13, 12:30 pm): You turn over and feel my hard cock pressing against your stomach. You kiss me hard as I fondle your breasts, and we begin sucking on each others tongues.
Me (Mar 13, 12:30 pm): Yes...
Her (Mar 13, 12:31 pm): Wow..really?
Me (Mar 13, 12:31 pm): You kiss your way down my chest, to my navel, and lick the head of my cock, as you feel it growing bigger in your mouth. You love my cock and how good it tastes
Me (Mar 13, 12:32 pm): You are so hot now, you can barely stand it, as your pussy drips wet, throbbing and twitching with anticipation.
Her (Mar 13, 12:32 pm): Ok.. So now that I am completely turned on and a bit surprised by the aggression.. You just threw me off center
Me (Mar 13, 12:33 pm): That's a little glimpse for you of what might have happened last night...
Her (Mar 13, 12:33 pm): Where is this coming from?
Me (Mar 13, 12:35 pm): its coming from inside my head :)
Her (Mar 13, 12:35 pm): Shoot. I am so wet right now you are a very naughty boy!
Me (Mar 13, 12:37 pm): I am with the right person...
Her (Mar 13, 12:37 pm): So are you saying I've missed my opportunity? Ok.. I have to go Masterbate now.. What am I gonna do with my kid:-@
Her (Mar 13, 12:38 pm): Both of them?
Her (Mar 13, 12:40 pm): Ok so I am not wearing underware right now and my Thighs are wet! Thanks Mr.
Me (Mar 13, 12:41 pm): The little head does the physical labor, the big head sits behind a desk and is the mastermind behind the operation.
Her (Mar 13, 12:42 pm): LOVES IT!
Her (Mar 13, 5:30 pm): Whatcha doin?
Me (Mar 13, 5:41 pm): We're still in the session. Don't make any plans around what I have going tonight. Its not looking good for me getting free any earlier then last night.
Me (Mar 13, 5:41 pm): You're still sexy :)
Her (Mar 13, 5:48 pm): Well lets just say when and if you make that call you wont be dissapointed. Bxxxx is spending the night at a friends. So when your out with your boys having your "group therapy" there is a sexy hot Woman alone in her bed!
Me (Mar 14, 3:22 am): If you're still up for company I would love to come see you.
Her (Mar 14, 3:23 am): I would love that as well. Where are you?
Me (Mar 14, 3:24 am): Just getting ready to leave the strip. Can you text me your address?
Her (Mar 14, 3:25 am): 821 xxxxxx Ln. Lv Nv 89144
Me (Mar 14, 3:28 am): Be there soon.
Her (Mar 14, 3:28 am): BTW my little one is here. Asleep of course. He couldnt bear to leave Mommy tonight. It is no problem. Just wanted you to know. Do have to take you friend home first?
Me (Mar 14, 3:31 am): No worries.
Her (Mar 14, 3:23 am): :)
Her (Mar 14, 3:33 am): Oh my address plaque on the garage, the bulb is out a bit hard to see but the porch light is on.
Me (Mar 14, 3:33 am): Ok.
Her (Mar 14, 4:06 am): Have you left yet?
Me (Mar 14, 4:06 am): Yes..I'm 5 mins away
Her (Mar 14, 4:07 am): :)
Her (Mar 14, 5:09 am): Thank You;-) I had a lovely very early morning! Smiles on my face:-) kisses.
Her (Mar 14, 5:13 am): Drive safe.
Me (Mar 14, 5:17 am): I will hun.
Her (Mar 14, 7:31 am): Wow! sort of can't stop thinking about you and a few hours ago:-*
While we were laying on the bed chilling after our hot sex session, I asked her what it was that motivated her to invite me over. She said she had been wet all day long from the erotic text messages I had sent her and couldn’t stop thinking about having sex with me after she read them.
My 2nd Bootcamp w/ Nick Quick in Vegas
It's my birthday weekend and I decided to go to Vegas to hang with my best bud since junior high school. He was having some recent problems with women so I thought a bootcamp would be the perfect present to try and help him change his life. I had just taken a bootcamp with Magic, so I wasn't looking for another one so soon. But Nick made me an offer I couldn't refuse so we both ended up taking the bootcamp over the weekend.
(The openers from the bootcamp are used to set a sexual frame right from the start)
*Hi! Why are girls from Vegas so fucking wild?
*Hi! You look like a really nice girl, but I detect a serious naughty side.
Find out Logistics:
(Determining logistics will help you figure out whether a SNL is probable for the evening. If it isn't, get the girls phone number and move on.)
1) Who are you here with?
2) How do you know each other?
3) How did you get here?
4) What are your plans for later?
5) What time do you have to wake up in the morning?
Escalate:
(How to physically compel the girl to submit to the framing)
1) Talk to her
2) Turn her away from her friends
3) Move her a little farther away from friends (10' or so)
4) Take her out of sight of her friends
5) Grab her hand and pull her out of the bar
Objections:
(These 5 objections need to be overcome to get the girl comfortable enough to have sex with you that night. You can tell stories and make statements in your interaction that will alleviate these concerns).
1) She does not want to get pregnant
2) She does not want to get an STD
3) She does not want to feel like she is being judged
4) No chance of a relationship in the future
5) She wants to make sure you won't stalk her
Kino:
(Getting physical with the girl during the interaction. One interesting thing you will notice is missing is that there is no kissing. The SNL bootcamp does not advocate kissing in the venue because it allows the girl to release the sexual tension that had been built up during the interaction).
*Touch her shoulder
This bootcamp triggered a light bulb to go off in my head about what it takes to get a SNL. I am a firm believer that there is a style out there that is suitable for everyone and my particular style is to be a little more subtle, not a high energy dancing monkey, and conveys sexuality. So the way that you do this is to set sexual frames. Sexual frames provide a context and focus for your thoughts and actions, and convey to your target that you are a sexual person. The key is to figure out how to calibrate properly, combining the sexual frames with regular conversation. I have to admit, that during the bootcamp my calibration was horrible. I would go in and be sexual sexual sexual, thinking I had to pull the girl in 5 minutes, with no regular conversation peppered into the mix. I had no pulls from the field, although I was able to pull an online hottie that weekend using some of the techniques I learned.
Openers:(The openers from the bootcamp are used to set a sexual frame right from the start)
*Hi! Why are girls from Vegas so fucking wild?
*Hi! You look like a really nice girl, but I detect a serious naughty side.
Find out Logistics:
(Determining logistics will help you figure out whether a SNL is probable for the evening. If it isn't, get the girls phone number and move on.)
1) Who are you here with?
2) How do you know each other?
3) How did you get here?
4) What are your plans for later?
5) What time do you have to wake up in the morning?
Escalate:
(How to physically compel the girl to submit to the framing)
1) Talk to her
2) Turn her away from her friends
3) Move her a little farther away from friends (10' or so)
4) Take her out of sight of her friends
5) Grab her hand and pull her out of the bar
Objections:
(These 5 objections need to be overcome to get the girl comfortable enough to have sex with you that night. You can tell stories and make statements in your interaction that will alleviate these concerns).
1) She does not want to get pregnant
2) She does not want to get an STD
3) She does not want to feel like she is being judged
4) No chance of a relationship in the future
5) She wants to make sure you won't stalk her
Kino:
(Getting physical with the girl during the interaction. One interesting thing you will notice is missing is that there is no kissing. The SNL bootcamp does not advocate kissing in the venue because it allows the girl to release the sexual tension that had been built up during the interaction).
*Touch her shoulder
*Put her hands on you
*Discrete hand holding
*Lolipop Kiss (You go in for the kiss and at the last minute you go right to her ear and say "sucker"
*Ass smack
So this bootcamp has set a foundation for my personal training and how I go about interacting with girls in bars in clubs. Stay tuned to find out how it works out.
Saturday, May 15, 2010
My First Boot Camp
I attended the SNL seminar in January put on by Casanova Crew, and Magic really stuck out in the crowd, and his demonstration of incorporating kino almost immediately in an interaction made a lot of sense to me. I decided to take the plunge and attend my first boot camp. I went the first weekend in February.
Bootcamp w/Magic
Friday - 9 pm to 2 am:
The boot camp was 3 days and started at the Standard Hotel Rooftop in LA. We started in a quiet area where Magic got to know each one of his students a little bit, our strengths and weaknesses, and our motivations for taking the boot camp. My motivation was to decrease my anxiety and develop more self confidence with approaching 9’s and 10’s. When I’m in a conversation with women of this caliber, I feel like I have nothing interesting to say.
Then it was out to open sets so Magic could observe and develop a game plan for the rest of the weekend. I was nervous, my mind went blank, and I got blown out immediately in my first couple sets. It’s funny because this took a lot of the pressure off for the rest of the evening. We went back to a quiet area and identified my weak points and where I was floundering. They were vocal tonality, energy level, and getting comfortable touching the women I was speaking to. We worked on each of these things and then it was back out to open sets. Here is a little synopsis of my openers and transition: “Hey guys. You look like you’re causing trouble. What’s going on? I’m CtV.” (As I’m speaking I notice their hair and touch the back of it right beneath the neck). “You have really nice hair. It’s not as nice as mine, but it’s still pretty good” (I’m bald so this is meant as a joke). “Are you local? This is my first time at the Standard. I f**king love this place. You can’t beat the 360 degree view of the city.” (As I’m talking I’m touching their shoulder, arm, etc). Now here is where I improvised a little bit (Magic didn’t tell me to do this). I pretend like I notice their perfume and smell it as I get my face in their neck. “That smells great. Can I smell it again?” (This time I kiss her neck). “It tastes really good too.” Then I ask them to guess what cologne I’m wearing so they can get close up in my neck.
I got more comfortable as the night went on, but still felt uneasy in the interactions because I was thinking about the things I was trying to improve on. At the end of the evening Magic downloaded me with his observations of both the good and the bad things I was doing in the sets, and how we were going to work on those for the rest of the weekend.
Saturday – 2 pm to 2 am:
Started the session with a revisit of the previous evening, then moved into vocal projection and tonality, your presence in the venue (being in a good state, body language, walking slow, making eye contact), kino (smiling, touching, giving compliments, going for the kiss, bouncing for an insta-date), storytelling, inner game (Discovering what am I passionate about), fashion, and becoming emotionally invested in what you’re saying.
The group took a vote and decided to go back to the Standard Rooftop again since it was so target rich full of sets. Honestly I found it difficult to implement a lot of the things I had learned so far. I was still nervous and trying to keep everything straight in my head (voice projection, energy, kino, and trying to think about the next thing to say in the conversation). I realized that I’m going to have to work on it in steps, small chunks at a time. But Magic did push me. He pushed me hard. I approached 1 sets, 2 sets, 3 sets, a group of 7 girls (where they were all sitting in chairs and I came and sat down Indian style and engaged the whole group in conversation). I touched their hair, touched their neck, read their palm, held their hand, hugged them, kissed them on the cheek, let them rub my bald head like a genie and ask for 3 wishes (to which one girl said she wanted “3 orgasms”). I definitely pushed past my comfort zone and for the first time felt the adreline rush of approaching set after set after set. I didn’t get any make out sessions at the venue, but my eyes were definitely opened as to what it takes to get there.
Sunday – 2pm to 11 pm:
We spent the first part of the session discussing the events of the previous evening. We then worked on conversational exercises, building a social circle, 3-somes, sex with friends, managing multiple relationships, phone and text game, and put together a road map for the future. Here is what I committed to myself to work on (I’m sharing this with the forum to help reinforce to myself internally the commitment I made): 1) Work on my tonality. Join a speech class, take voice lessons. 2) Sit down and put together a plan for each nights approach. 3) Make a list of venues that are target rich with girls 4) Continuously work on conversational skills. 5) Watch Western movies and imitate the body language of the hero 6) Read the book “Love Signals” and watch real couples interact 1 x week 7) Build my social circle – say hello and chat with groups (including males) in bars 8) When working on my game, try something for 20 nights, if it doesn’t work 5 consecutive times, try something else.
So what did I learn, realize, and gain from the boot camp? First and foremost, there is no overnight cure to improving your weaknesses. It will take dedication and hard work and a true commitment to yourself to make it happen. Magic gave me the tools and the road map to make this happen. It was very apparent that he is passionate about coaching others and takes a vested interest in a student’s success. I would highly recommend him to anybody out there that is looking for guidance and is looking for something more than the canned openers and other “flash game” material that is out there.
Bootcamp w/Magic
Friday - 9 pm to 2 am:
The boot camp was 3 days and started at the Standard Hotel Rooftop in LA. We started in a quiet area where Magic got to know each one of his students a little bit, our strengths and weaknesses, and our motivations for taking the boot camp. My motivation was to decrease my anxiety and develop more self confidence with approaching 9’s and 10’s. When I’m in a conversation with women of this caliber, I feel like I have nothing interesting to say.
Then it was out to open sets so Magic could observe and develop a game plan for the rest of the weekend. I was nervous, my mind went blank, and I got blown out immediately in my first couple sets. It’s funny because this took a lot of the pressure off for the rest of the evening. We went back to a quiet area and identified my weak points and where I was floundering. They were vocal tonality, energy level, and getting comfortable touching the women I was speaking to. We worked on each of these things and then it was back out to open sets. Here is a little synopsis of my openers and transition: “Hey guys. You look like you’re causing trouble. What’s going on? I’m CtV.” (As I’m speaking I notice their hair and touch the back of it right beneath the neck). “You have really nice hair. It’s not as nice as mine, but it’s still pretty good” (I’m bald so this is meant as a joke). “Are you local? This is my first time at the Standard. I f**king love this place. You can’t beat the 360 degree view of the city.” (As I’m talking I’m touching their shoulder, arm, etc). Now here is where I improvised a little bit (Magic didn’t tell me to do this). I pretend like I notice their perfume and smell it as I get my face in their neck. “That smells great. Can I smell it again?” (This time I kiss her neck). “It tastes really good too.” Then I ask them to guess what cologne I’m wearing so they can get close up in my neck.
I got more comfortable as the night went on, but still felt uneasy in the interactions because I was thinking about the things I was trying to improve on. At the end of the evening Magic downloaded me with his observations of both the good and the bad things I was doing in the sets, and how we were going to work on those for the rest of the weekend.
Saturday – 2 pm to 2 am:
Started the session with a revisit of the previous evening, then moved into vocal projection and tonality, your presence in the venue (being in a good state, body language, walking slow, making eye contact), kino (smiling, touching, giving compliments, going for the kiss, bouncing for an insta-date), storytelling, inner game (Discovering what am I passionate about), fashion, and becoming emotionally invested in what you’re saying.
The group took a vote and decided to go back to the Standard Rooftop again since it was so target rich full of sets. Honestly I found it difficult to implement a lot of the things I had learned so far. I was still nervous and trying to keep everything straight in my head (voice projection, energy, kino, and trying to think about the next thing to say in the conversation). I realized that I’m going to have to work on it in steps, small chunks at a time. But Magic did push me. He pushed me hard. I approached 1 sets, 2 sets, 3 sets, a group of 7 girls (where they were all sitting in chairs and I came and sat down Indian style and engaged the whole group in conversation). I touched their hair, touched their neck, read their palm, held their hand, hugged them, kissed them on the cheek, let them rub my bald head like a genie and ask for 3 wishes (to which one girl said she wanted “3 orgasms”). I definitely pushed past my comfort zone and for the first time felt the adreline rush of approaching set after set after set. I didn’t get any make out sessions at the venue, but my eyes were definitely opened as to what it takes to get there.
Sunday – 2pm to 11 pm:
We spent the first part of the session discussing the events of the previous evening. We then worked on conversational exercises, building a social circle, 3-somes, sex with friends, managing multiple relationships, phone and text game, and put together a road map for the future. Here is what I committed to myself to work on (I’m sharing this with the forum to help reinforce to myself internally the commitment I made): 1) Work on my tonality. Join a speech class, take voice lessons. 2) Sit down and put together a plan for each nights approach. 3) Make a list of venues that are target rich with girls 4) Continuously work on conversational skills. 5) Watch Western movies and imitate the body language of the hero 6) Read the book “Love Signals” and watch real couples interact 1 x week 7) Build my social circle – say hello and chat with groups (including males) in bars 8) When working on my game, try something for 20 nights, if it doesn’t work 5 consecutive times, try something else.
So what did I learn, realize, and gain from the boot camp? First and foremost, there is no overnight cure to improving your weaknesses. It will take dedication and hard work and a true commitment to yourself to make it happen. Magic gave me the tools and the road map to make this happen. It was very apparent that he is passionate about coaching others and takes a vested interest in a student’s success. I would highly recommend him to anybody out there that is looking for guidance and is looking for something more than the canned openers and other “flash game” material that is out there.
My Story
I officially started my journey at the beginning of 2010. I have had some good success dating in the past, but made a New Year’s resolution to improve my social interaction skills in bars and clubs.
I am new to the PUA community and I am excited to be here. I got a late start, I was married in my 20's, then I focused on my education and career into my 30's. That leads me to now. My dream is to be come fantastically good at this before I turn 40.
My nickname comes from the movie “Con Air”. Tons of people have told me I look like the John Malkovich character in that movie, so I thought I would bring it back to life.
You see, I am the guy that always runs out of things to say to a girl after the first couple minutes. I'm not sure why I have never been that great socially. Perhaps it's because I wa raised in a household with really quiet parents and a strict religous upbringing.
I am the guy that never gets the girls I really want, but settled for the ones that liked me. I am self conscious about my looks, the way I talk, and of other peoples perception of me. I am going to change that.
I am not an expert in this stuff, but whenever I set my mind to something, I pour my heart and soul into it. I hope to share what I am currently learning with others in my same situation.
My pledge to the readers is that I will always be honest and upfront about my odyssey and adventures. I am not here to try and impress anyone, but to chronicle my journey, share it with you, and provide feedback from the community that we can all learn from.
I am new to the PUA community and I am excited to be here. I got a late start, I was married in my 20's, then I focused on my education and career into my 30's. That leads me to now. My dream is to be come fantastically good at this before I turn 40.
My nickname comes from the movie “Con Air”. Tons of people have told me I look like the John Malkovich character in that movie, so I thought I would bring it back to life.
You see, I am the guy that always runs out of things to say to a girl after the first couple minutes. I'm not sure why I have never been that great socially. Perhaps it's because I wa raised in a household with really quiet parents and a strict religous upbringing.
I am the guy that never gets the girls I really want, but settled for the ones that liked me. I am self conscious about my looks, the way I talk, and of other peoples perception of me. I am going to change that.
I am not an expert in this stuff, but whenever I set my mind to something, I pour my heart and soul into it. I hope to share what I am currently learning with others in my same situation.
My pledge to the readers is that I will always be honest and upfront about my odyssey and adventures. I am not here to try and impress anyone, but to chronicle my journey, share it with you, and provide feedback from the community that we can all learn from.
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